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ago, nancy pelosi exiting the meeting with president obama and the republican leaders as well as harry reid and tim geithner e we have bearn boehner who left, nancy pelosi waiting for her suv and she'll take off. she won't speak, she won't come in front of a camera. we're waiting to see if the other lawmakers inside come and let us know what's going on. rich edison is outside the white house right now. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner, and nancy pelosi just left the white house so the meeting has wrapped up. still waiting to see if the senate leaders come out. an official saying the president opened the meeting up by offering essentially what he started negotiations with, so no word if they made progress on anything further to get this resolved. if not, it's bad news considering this is a pposal that republicans say could not have pass the house, probably not pass the senate if you have to go with of say 60 vote threshold. >> the fact both the house leaders left without taking a microphone, is that a bad sign? >> we may have lost his audio. again, we'll let you know nancy pelosi
and what about nancy pelosi's pledge pledge. >> nick from the daily caller, did republicans miss a move here? >> i think they missed a opportunity if you go back to 2010 when they sweep the house and had the president in a position where he could support a permanent extension of the bush tax cuts, and they only went for the the extension for two years. david: why is that? only go for two years as opposed to a major change in the tax code? >> maybe they were hoping that they would win the presidential election in 2012 and then have a upper hand event. but you know, they didn't go for the permanent rates, the bush era tax rates when they had the chance in 2010 and the sequester, the automatic spending cuts getting lost in the conversation are something they pretty much set up with the democrats in 2011. >> well, here specifically, here is about the millionaire cut off figure because of course, now the president says compromise going out to 4,000. here is what pelosi said in may of 2012 to speaker john boehner. democrats believe those earning over a million dollars a year should expire and
upset with this congress. >> president obama has invited nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time president obama has met face to face with congressional leaders since mid-november. duarte, tick tock. >> thank you. >>> general schwarzkopf is being remembered this morning as a great hero and tactician.
shot here. now, want to show you the players. president, there in the middle, democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says h
of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies, watching their kids play soccer, basketball, doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, house sp
house. president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining. >> they should negotiate a plan. they shouldn't have the mine are in plan, they should have the biglan. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> the republicans are sitting there with a nuclear weapon. they have the debt ceiling coming up. they can use that as part of this negotiation. >> what is going on here? >> the president called me and probably called others last night. my impression is he would like to see if we can move forward. >> you can't legislate wit
" summit with nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid and today's meeting may be the last realistic chance to come to an agreement before the end of the year. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> i don't know time-wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, a bill could make its way through procedural hurdles in time only if every senator agrees not to slow down the progress. the house will not be back in session until sunday night. >>> a former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't work. 31-year-old newly elected congressman that man there eric swalwell is the new kid on the block and heading off to capitol hill to take part in all the quagmire there. swalwell a former dublin city councilman says he is ready to bring small-town solutions to capitol hill to help prevent an avoidable "fiscal cliff." >> i'm confident that there can still be a buzzer beater here where we can beat the clock and deliver on middle class taxes. >> congressman swalwell will be the second
to beat the budget impasse. mr. obama will hold a "fiscal cliff" summit with nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid and today's meeting may be the last realistic chance to come to an agreement before the end of the year. >> here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> i don't know how it could happen time-wise. >> it could make its way through procedural hurdles every time only if every senator agrees not slow down the process. of the house won't be back in session until sunday night. >>> a former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't. 31-year-old newly elected congressman is heading into a capitol hill quagmire. he said he is ready to bring small town solutions to capitol hill to help prevent and avoidable "fiscal cliff. >> i'm confident there can still be a buzzer beater here where we can beat the clock and deliver on middle class taxes. >> congressman swalwell will be the second youngest member congress to be sworn in on january 3. he leaves sunday for d.c. to pick up his new keys to
of the democrats were going to join. >> that's an unreasonable standard. >> he's not negotiating with nancy pelosi. he's negotiating with the president of the united states trying to work this deal out and certainly it's become a discussion with nancy pelosi and it's not, it's a discussion with the president of the united states in term of trying to work this through and where does he have to turn? he has to turn back to the principles in this negotiation and that's what he's done. >> but i believe he could have passed his plan b if he hadn't gone with the $20 million cutoff and he'd moved toward the center and that had been under discussion with a $400,000 cut off or a $500,000 cut off for the tax cuts to go into effect and the tax increases above that figure to go into effect and he didn't try to go into the center and he locked himself into an impossible situation where he couldn't get 218 votes in his own caucus and that was a failure of leadership. >> martin frost, david winston, ten seconds. you have ten seconds to respond. >> i'm sorry, but you're asking him to take the democratic position
, mitch, house speaker john boehner, democratic leader nancy pelosi tomorrow afternoon at the white house. to try to find out if there is a way to avert the fiscal cliff. today, after the president returned from his vacation in hawaii, he did meet with his senior advisors. they did conduct some back- channel negotiations as they have been during the holidays on a bill to possibly avert the fiscal cliff. those talks i'm told did not make much progress. the face-to-face conversations may fact create the possibility of a breakthrough. but right now the president has no new proposals to give his congressional leaders. he will stick with what he told the nation on friday-- raise income taxes for households earning more than $250,000, extend unemployment benefits for those americans out of work for more than six months, and try to find some other means to avert the fiscal cliff before that deadline, and tomorrow, may give us a glimmer of hope but as i said, the white house does not consider this a breakthrough, but everyone is and will be talking. >> glor: major garrett at the white house. than
majority leader harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, and house speaker john boehner. have four dates to reach an agreement, but the u.s. economy would go off a fiscal cliff. that's when automatic spending increases and spending cuts would take effect. -- a deal will not be easy, because both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline. this is a conversation we should have had months ago. clerk democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making to a hundred $50,000 or more per year. many republicans are against any tax increases. -- democrats want to extend bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 per year. >> d.c. mayor vinc
and nancy pelosi leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. no deal can be reached in past without their cooperation. with the meeting comes a glimmer of hope. in the past all the ifisical cliff talks meetings like this have been the least productive of all. whether he meant to or not the senate majority leader may have spoken for a nation exhausted by seemingly endless fiscal cliff negotiations. >> what's going on here? >> reporter: what indeed. president obama returned to the white house in a grim mood. he met with no congressional leaders and said nothing about his efforts to avert the fiscal cliff, talks continue between senior white house and congressional staff, but that's been true throughout this entire saga. with the deadline looming there were dire predictions. >> come the first of this year americans will have less income than they have today. >> reporter: and recriminations. >> now republicans have bent over backwards. we stepped way, way out of our comfort zone. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> reporter: the senate's top dem
effort the hail hary pass was the house of representatives saying fine let's take nancy pelosi and chuck schumer's bill that they proposed this summer to extend the tax rates on every household and every small business a million dollars and below, allow them to go up on the million dollars and above which is the current law on january 1, let's do that. that ought to be something we can agree on. let me add this. when we he voted on our bill in the house this summer it was a clean extension which was an extension for are everyone in america not only did every republican vote for that but 19 democrats did as well. so this is why it is so frustrating for those in the house is that now we are close to the cliff. >> greta: and frustrating -- >> and we can't even get a single democrat to join with us. >> greta: if you think you are frustrated try the american people as they watch what is going on. congressman, thank you, sir. good luck, sir. >> call the senate and get them to act. we can't negotiate with nothing. >> greta: i don't think they would listen to me. thank you, congressman. straight
boehner and nancy pelosi. if they can't work this out and we go over the cliff it means smaller pay checks automatic spending cuts and according to some economists possibly another recession. molly henneberg tracking developments tonight at the white house. what are you hearing? >> hi, harris. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell confirmed it and the white house made it official. there will be a hearing here tomorrow according to a white house aide. it will be on the schedule that the president will talk fiscal cliff with those four top congressional leaders that you mentioned, harris. the president returned to washington today. he cut his hawaiian vacation short to get back to the white house for any possible last minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever h
conservative conference that may not coming to to vote on something, even if nancy pelosi can corral the democrats, they need to pick off republicans. we don't know if any of them would vote for something like this. john boehner is ready to strike a deal. i'm not sure many others are. in the senate we have seen a number of conservative republicans saying they would vote. >> 20 republican votes? >> at this point it's very hard to say. i think john boehner would probably be trying to go in that direction if he could. we haven't seen enough house republicans come out yet and say they would support tax increases. if you have tom coal who broke with his party leadership and the party ranks about three weeks ago or so. we haven't seen enough say they would. i don't know that that's the right deal for that to try to strike. >> one of the strategies that republicans could very well allow us to go off the fiscal cliff. a few weeks into january they decide to take the vote on lowering taxes. lowering the race so they can say you know what, we voted to lower taxes. >> that's something that has
rapidly move to the solution to the situation. >> nancy pelosi tried to do that and the signature is not there. chuck hegel was a colleague of yours. are you surprised about the criticism he received from the left and the right being the possible nominee for president obama in the obama administration in the second term? >> hegel used on foreign policy, but he hasn't received a lot of criticism. how much of that is justified? i can't tell you. >> senator from vermont, we thank you for joining us the day after christmas. >> joining us to talk big picture and the president's second term cabinet, nbc editor mark murray was the december employee of the month. congratulations. >> excuse me. you heard from senator sanders saying the lack of urgency hasn't been a problem, but if you look at it for all intents and purposes, boehner removed himself from these discussions. harry reid, president obama, and a little bit of mitch mcconnell. what is possible of making a deal? >> the ball seems to be in mitch mcconnell's court. does he filibuster anything that harry reid ends up making with pres
mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and house democratic leader nancy pelosi met at the white house yesterday afternoon with the president and vice president. here's where things stand right now. the senate leaders are meeting aiming to avoid tax hikes. and they may vote on a deal sunday or perhaps on monday. jessica yellin is our chief white house correspondent. lisa day jar dayne is on capitol hill. the president used his bully pulpit to reinforce the idea that senators need to get busy. so let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable, why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. >> so jessica, you were in the room for the president's remarks. on a scale of 1 to 10, let's measure the anger perhaps that
their chosen leader, this time nancy pelosi. it's usually pro forma, but this time it has a real weight to it, because one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we're waiting for john boehner to be reelected to speaker of the house before they make a move, because only if 16 or 17 republicans don't vote for the guy, he could lose. they just want to wait. >> that's, i think, a point we've all been missing here is that after plan b's gone down, there seems to be some thinking, especially in boehner land, that we don't want our fingerprints on anything that could lead to some sort of conservative ensue su sure. >> it would be very embarra embarrassing. republicans voting for someone else or abstaining, they would have to probably shut the whole house down, have a whole meeting, drum up the votes. it would be very embarrassing and i think you're also seeing it on the senate side, mitch mcconnell is thinking, senate minority leader, if john boehner doesn't want his fingerprints on something, why do i want my fingerprints on it, i'm up for reelection in 2014. >> the amazing su
to legislate. all six of them in the room today have worked across party lines. nancy pelosi, she worked with george w. bush in 2008 to craft a stimulus. they worked together on tarp. mitch mcconnell voted for tarp i could go on and on. for all of the tough talk, look at the word hopeful or optimistic. it is there. host: we will john boehner face a challenge to speaker? guest: there is grumbling, but the feeling is no. i did not think so. one of the most significant things that happened, going back to that press conference one week ago when the talk was in the air, eric cantor stood by his side, and that was a signal that if anybody is going to challenge him, it might be eric cantor. he will not challenge. he is absolutely on board. host: david lightman, thank you as always for being with us. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will check in with you again and your dog. every friday we look at america by the numbers. today, we want to focus on the issue of hunger in america. "washington journal" continues. negotiations are resuming this afternoon at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. [applause
>> nancy pelosi, which mcconnell, and john boe hner have four days to reach agreement or spending cuts would take effect. >> both sides are involved in a high-stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working. the members of house of represented or out watching movies, and watching the kids play soccer, basketball, and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told president i will be happy to look at what ever he proposes. a hard deadline. as i said this is the conversation we should of had to go. >> democrats want to extend the bush era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more per year. republicans remain against any tax increases. >> most americans just wasn't begun. >> people are tired. >> islamic not reach a deal by january 1st many economists are concerned it could lead to another recession. >> ibm ed paine reporting. >> and other nationals former president george h. w. bush is still in intensive care at houston hospital this morning dealing with the stubborn fever. >> the former president's family is confident that he will be
into the majority. we don't and that's going to happen this time. how is nancy pelosi regarded? divest you that the others. she was speaker pelosi coming a leader pelosi. it was in a given she'd be minority leader after she lost the majority, but she's still in control of and doesn't seem to be insurrection to change dynamic there. >> there will not be any kind of insurrection. it's been interesting to see i interviewed minority leader pelosi for this book can talk to other people on the democratic side of the leadership. following republican freshman, it is interesting to see these guys evolve one reason i wanted to do this the. one thing it did involve us their opinion of pelosi. they came to really respect her. she holds her caucus together a much more diverse caucus in the republican caucuses that she can count better than anybody in washington, specifically to 218, the number it takes to get to the majority. she can count the number to become house minority leader and after she lost the speakership one of the dwindling number of blue dog democrat decided to run against her, she made i
me whether this is a dream come true -- what if nancy pelosi and john boehner kind of got together and nancy pelosi told boehner he could bring the votes for his speakership and then maybe together could isolate the tea party section of his group and take away some of the radical left of her group and burn the moderates together, support him for speakership. me, being a democrat, i would not get everything i want, but the republicans would get everything they wanted. by the time re-election came up they would have seen there was a lot of progress made and maybe they could not run primaries on those guys that decided to run to the middle with policy and later together. host: thank you for the call. so many things. basically, you are assuming that john boehner would be elected speaker in a democratic house. it is not likely that they would give him their votes. it is far more likely, quite honestly, that the democrats would like to see continued disruption on the republican side. either way there would be a much-weakened speaker or he would be deposed. host: agree or disagree? guest:
to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would get all of this behind us before new year's eve. how likely does that sound? not so likely. >> yo
. the president, vice president biden, senate majority leader harry reid and house minority leader nancy pelosi on the democratic side. house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are starting to dim. right now, we're hearing a whole lot of the blame game. a lot of public posturing from both sides as they prepare for the possibility of going over the cliff. let's listen to harry reid. >> we are here in washington working while members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, the speaker of the house, john boehner, sort of retorting t
has called majority leader read as well as the house speaker and democratic leader nancy pelosi. watching wall street we have good news with unemployment. the number of americans filing for unemployment dropped. after senator reid made the comment that we would go over the fiscal cliff is starting to slide. >> former president h. w. bush is in intensive care in a houston hospital this morning. he has been hospitalized since last month with what was described as a stubborn fever. pete is on and all liquid diet and has been an the east i see you since sunday. he was hospitalized recently with a broad patterns like cough but now it is the persistent fever. thursday and traffic is nice and light. it is still chilly this morning we are looking for a high of just 52 this afternoon. [ female announcer ] now get high speed internet at home on our newly expanded advanced digital network, a connection you can count on. introducing at&t u-verse high speed internet with more speed options, reliability and wi-fi hot spots than ever. call at&t now to get u-verse high speed internet for as lit
he heard from any democrat, president, senator reid, nancy pelosi, anybody in about a month in terms of talking about the fiscal cliff. so everyone has sort of delayed really facing all of th up against the deadline now, jon. jon: that seems clear. ed henry at the white house there. ed, thank you. stay on it for us. for more on this let's bring in the editor of "campaigns & elections" magazine, shane deapril. campaigns and elections might be appropriate here because some say there is a lot of political posturing going on. you have said the feeling in washington it might actually be better to go over the cliff and come back and negotiate. why? >> yeah. now, this is of course purely political campaign calculation here, tossing aside the nation's fiscal health frankly. for both side i think there is good argument to be made for congressional leaders, democratic leaders and republican leaders in particular, there may be less political risk here actually if we do go over the cliff and figure out a solution very quickly afterwards. if you go back to what happened with plan b, speaker boehn
. this meeting brings together all the key players. president obama, top leaders harry read and nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell and him. it was only a short while ago that john boehner was called a dictator. with the deadline looming the goal appears to be to shield most american taxpayers from automatic tax increase. now, the president's already agreed to raise income taxes on americans earning more than $400,000. that's up from his $250,000 goal set in the campaign, and there's also an effort to extend jobless pen fits for americans out of work for six months or more. >> major, do we have any reason to believe that this time it is different? >> well, certainly. the deadline is real. the house is coming back into session on sunday. even is going to be here either to preside over america going over the fiscal cliff or last-minute very small deal that averted for a while and leaves more negotiations for the future. >> major garrett, thank you very much. general norman schwarzkopf, commander of the coalition for the gulf war died yesterday. he tricked and outflanked saddam hussein's forces in
a consensus in the middle. does john boehner need nancy pelosi in order to get anything passed? >> reporter: yes, absolutely. no question about it. that became incredibly obvious when he couldn't even get his own republicans to effectively save them from themselves and at least have some political cover by voting to keep tax cuts in place for everybody except millionaires because they said they wouldn't help him with what they call a political ploy. i think that's true but actually talking to people on both sides of the aisle here, because the ball is now in the senate -- the senate's court, the feeling is that if they can kind of break the dam in the senate and if something actually passes, you've already seen over the past two days house republicans saying that they hadn't said before, if the senate passes something, we'll take it up. and if that's the case, the sort of betting is that with the help of the majority of the democrats, probably most of the democrats and maybe, you know, a few dozen or more republicans, that's how it would get passed. but, candy, it's still a big if, as we ju
. number two, plan b was really the idea of chuck schumer and nancy pelosi as recently as in this summer. to set the threshold on incomes to a million dollars versus 250,000, allow those tax rates for a million and above go up, the president talked about taxing millionaires and billionaires, that would be right, and now let the rest of the country enjoy the extension of the full bush tax cuts which i think we now even see democrats acknowledging have meaningful -- gregg: basil, if it doesn't work, the president's going to have egg on his face, right? >> no, not at all. gregg: come on. >> the president has come back with a compromise. the people that have egg on their face are republicans. they've taken intractable positions where as the president has made concessions, boehner cannot show leadership to get anything passed through his congress right now. and, quite frankly, they're being sort of held by the tea party against some extraordinary positions that they have to take at a time when the paradigm has shifted. so i think the country is recognizing that the country -- gregg: looking a
, nancy pelosi is back on capitol hill after the meeting with the president, calling it constructive and candid, saying, wait to see what senators reid and mcconnell can put together. pelosi said boehner made it clear in the white house meeting that he will not move something until the senate moves first. you can find more updates and our special web page on the fiscal cliff, c-span.org /fiscalcliff. we have been looking at the possible impact of the office of a cliff on various sectors, including this conversation about possible effects on social security. host: a dive into social security. here to talk about the program is stephen olmacher, joining us from the associated press. how many people in america receive social security? how much social security to people get? guest: >> 66 million people. the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- a little over $1,200 a month. maybe $13,000 a year or so. host: we are talking about retirees and the disabled. guest: a fairly wide group of people receive social security benefits. retired workers, spouses, children, disabled workers, widow
it very difficult to lead. nancy pelosi is still able to lead her caucus. she kept every single democrat, everyone the most moderate, she kept them all in line to not vote for the boehner bill. boehner just can't do it. >> thanks so much. really good to see you dana, ryan, thanks to you both. >>> first tornadoes and now blizzard conditions. we're following several severe weather stories making it difficult for millions of americans. holly is at the world's busiest airport, hartsfield jackson in atlanta. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: well, joe, it's pretty steady here. it's getting a little bit more crowded as the evening goes on. but i can tell you that some people are heading home after christmas and finding it tough to travel today because of that massive storm barreling through the country. it's wreaking havoc on the roads and in the air. snow, ice and high winds. >> we want to get out. >> it's always scary when you're flying that you'll be stuck in the airport. >> reporter: as massive storm it that left many in the midwest and parts of the south with a white christmas is po
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